Fake or Fact? Does Podesta Pizza Gate Emails Go Beyond Clintons, To Obama White House? Afterthought,,,
WASHINGTON, D.C. — David Seaman was fired from the liberal Huffington Post for writing the truth, having dared to question the anointed one, Hillary Clinton’s health. He has a few noteworthy observations on PizzaGate, the possible pedophile ring exposed by WikiLeaks in Podesta emails and elsewhere. He observes that Dan Pfeiffer, a VP of Communications and Policy for GoFundMe and a former Senior Adviser to Hussein Obama who is also a current CNN contributor, sent out a tweet promoting a crowd-funding campaign for Comet Pizza. Seaman recognizes an odd public relations campaign when he sees one.
At a minimum, the level of engagement, the sentiment and behavioral evidence indicates that there is just too much involvement by rich and powerful people in defending and covering up for what they would have us believe is just a simple pizza parlor that has been falsely accused. Seaman believes it is a diversion and, although Comet Pizza is likely involved in some very despicable actions, the focus should be directed towards John Podesta. His emails involved the use of terms that are known to be code for pedophilia, such as pizza and cheese pizza, used in a manner that is clearly not associated with an actual food product.
Seaman points out that John Podesta isn’t offering any explanations as he has basically fallen off the map since the Clinton loss. His last tweet was November 7th and “He has been seen nowhere, nobody has any idea where he is, he’s MIA. Eric Braverman, (outed as a mole by Podesta in this email) the former CEO of the Clinton Foundation is also a ghost. Nobody knows where he is, he hasn’t tweeted. There are some rumors that he’s either dead or in the witness protection program, involved with pending federal suits against the Clinton Foundation of some kind. We don’t know.” But If anybody needs the witness protection program, it’s someone targeted by the Clintons.
Seaman finds some curious aspects to the campaign to make Comet Pizza appear sympathetic and the victim of online trolls. He reminds the viewers that the owner, James Alefantis, is the former domestic partner of David Brock. Brock is a Soros tool responsible for Media Matters and Correct the Record, and a close Clinton insider. David Brock paid another of his homosexual partners $850,000 in what many believe to have been hush money, an indicator of the level of wealth of the people in this circle.
He says, “This is the DC politico lobbyist class, they have a lot of money.” He notes that James Alefantis “has also hung out with ‘lady’ Rothschild and David Brock together. Lady Rothschild, being one of the most wealthy people on the planet, I think it’s obscene for someone in James Alefantis’ economic social circle, somebody that wealthy, I think it’s obscene that he is resorting to crowdfunding to pay for his security costs.” He believes that while they could have easily gotten the money from his friends if that were the issue, the objective of crowd funding is to use it as a promotional tool to influence public opinion. “It’s all PR to make them seem like the victims,” says Seaman.
Seaman also asks why did this man with a perverted, broken mind, as evidenced by the child pornographic nature of his postings on his Instagram account, visit the White House five times and meet personally with Hussein Obama on at least one of those occasions. He asks, “What business does the ‘president’ have with a perverted, ‘random’ pizza shop owner?”
Seaman notes, “At a certain point, those in the beltway, those in Washington DC, and those in the media who continue to push the fake news narrative or continue to push the insane ‘feel sorry for James Alefantis’ narrative, those who continue to push this, we need to begin to think of as suspect. Either they are very ignorant or they are aware of something and covering because PizzaGate is very real.” Seaman says, “I went back through all the emails for a third time, with an open mind, and still came to the same conclusion. These are very wealthy, busy, powerful men excitedly talking about cheese pizza and hot dogs. It does not make sense.”
$65K worth of hotdogs and pizzas sent to White House for Small Private Gathering.
He adds, “And since Dan Pfeiffer was a former adviser to ‘president’ Obama, Dan, if you’re reading this, maybe you can call Obama and ask him why in the WikiLeaks emails is it stated that Obama spent about $65,000 of the taxpayer money on hot dogs and pizza for a small, private party at the White House. Now either option ‘A’ is that hot dogs and pizza are code for something, because I’ve heard that White House policy does not allow food to be brought in, it has to be cooked on site, in the White House kitchen, for security reasons, which makes a lot of sense to me.”
“So either these are not literal hot dogs and pizza,” says Seaman, “in which case what is going on here, or these are literal hot dogs and pizza, in which case it appears the ‘president’ has been misusing taxpayer money.” He does the math, calculating that amount of money would have bought roughly 3,500 pizzas or 60,000 hot dogs. For a small gathering of men at the White House, that seems like a lot of food, a ridiculous amount and beyond credible.
Seaman challenges Pfeiffer to, instead of pushing the ridiculous campaign, provide answers and takes a shot at the mainstream media, the ones who are helping the criminal elites vilify those doing their jobs for them, reporting on the truth, even when it’s as disgusting as this.
Is it any wonder that “Dems in High Places” and the liberal media are all talking about “fake news” at every opportunity in recent weeks? If there is even a smoldering ember of truth under all of this pizza oven “smoke,” there are a lot of Dems and their sycophantic supporters who belong in a category far beyond “deplorable.” They are really SICK, DESPICABLE and totally IRRETRIEVABLE!
The FBI themselves have said that child trafficking is an “epidemic” right now in the US. Where are the arrests?
Hillary Clinton is now calling on Congress to act to shut down “Fake News” outlets. This #PizzaGate stuff has many elitists panicking. Why?
Another weird thing about #pizzagate is I’m pretty sure if this was completely false there’d be defamation lawsuits getting filed, Are there?
One thing all of these people share in common besides raping children? Protection by the media because they were so powerful.
Years ago this investigation was HALTED! #Pizzagate is NOT #FakeNews. Don’t let MSM pull the wool over your eyes. They haven’t investigated!
Beginning in 1997, in an English town of more than 100,000 people, eight Pakistani men stood at the core of a group involving as many as three hundred suspects who were abused, gang-raped, pimped and trafficked, by the most conservative estimate, well over a thousand of the town’s young girls for years.
The police were eventually accused of not just turning a blind eye, but of participating in the abuse — even supplying the Pakistani gangs with drugs and tipping them off when they heard of colleagues searching for children they knew to be in the gangs’ possession.
Others were afraid of investigating the gangs or calling attention to their behavior because it would have been politically incorrect to accuse the town’s ethnic community of such a rampant and heinous crime — in the words of one English writer, “Fears of appearing racist trumped fears of more children being abused.”
But when this story first broke, guess where it appeared?
Some years ago, a friend sent me a shocking article. It said hundreds of British girls were being systematically gang-raped by Muslim gangs. It claimed this was being covered-up.
I’ve never had time for conspiracy theories, especially when they look as hateful as those in the article. So I checked the links and sources in the piece. I found an American racist-far-right website and from there, saw the original source was a similarly unpleasant website in the UK.
I did a brief search for corroboration from reputable mainstream sources. I found none. So I wrote a curt reply to my friend: “I’d appreciate it if you didn’t send me made-up crap from neo–Nazi websites.”
Some months later, I read the seminal exposé of the (mainly) ethnic-Pakistani grooming gang phenomenon by Andrew Norfolk in The Sunday Times.
I was stunned and horrified — not just that these vile crimes were indeed happening and endemic, but that they really were being ignored and “covered-up” by public authorities and the mainstream media.
The Rotherham child sexual exploitation scandal first “broke” in the far-right blogosphere. The accusation they made was that these gangs were being allowed to operate undisturbed because everyone was too afraid of “appearing racist” to properly investigate them . . . and nobody listened to the far-right bloggers who were breaking this story because they were afraid of “appearing racist” if they gave any credibility to those far-right sources, too. Never mind that it seemed paranoid to rely on bloggers to report truths like these when the allegations were so wide-reaching, involving a literal conspiracy within the police force.
And yet, years after no one was willing to take them seriously, the far-right blogosphere turned out to be right. Well over a thousand (mostly) white young girls were being abused by (mostly) Pakistani gangs.
And the authorities were covering it up.
We are now, once again, in the stage of an evolving scandal that is described above. Just to be clear, I’m not going to commit myself to the idea that this is going to be as huge as Rotherham was. We should be careful: we don’t know what would or wouldn’t be confirmed by a proper investigation. The question here is not whether we’ve gotten to the bottom of this online. The question is whether there is enough here to justify thinking there should be a proper investigation.
And the parallel with Rotherham is that the relatively small number of people asking for that are mostly the loathsome kinds of people who run “racist far-right websites.” So, since the claims are inherently conspiratorial, and the mainstream doesn’t want to be associated with those people who are talking about it, it is once again all too easy to just dismiss the claims out of hand as paranoia run wild.
Again, the evolution of the Rotherham child sexual exploitation scandal was an extremely painful lesson that the mainstream can be wrong and the “paranoid racist far-right” can be right. And that lesson was far too expensive to simply let go to waste.
The name of this scandal is Pizzagate.
It gets the name for two reasons: first, because at the center of the scandal are high-level Washington insiders who own a handful of businesses in the DC area, including a couple pizzerias (Comet, Ping Pong, and Besta Pizza), who have fallen under suspicion for involvement in a child sex abuse ring. Second, because the first questions arose in peoples’ minds as a result of some very bizarre emails revealed by Wikileaks in The Podesta Emails that, quite simply, just sound strange (and usually involve weird references to pizza). One of the strangest emails involves John Podesta being asked this question: “The realtor found a handkerchief (I think it has a map that seems pizza-related). Is it yours?”
The evidence is of wildly varying levels of quality, ranging from the pareidolia of “Jesus is appearing to me in my toast” to “wait, that’s actually pretty damn creepy.” The mountain of claims and observations and speculations being compiled in places like Voat and Steemit are too overwhelming for any one person to hope to wade through sorting wheat from the chaff, and while I don’t intend to try, I will summarize some just a little bit of it here.
While many of these claims are wild speculation over coincidences (though by no means all of them are), at some point I think a bunch of weird coincidences involving pedophilia and kids becomes sort of damning in and of itself. In one email, Podesta is among those being invited to a farm and the host says, “Bonnie will be Uber Service to transport Ruby, Emerson, and Maeve Luzzatto (11, 9, and almost 7) so you’ll have some further entertainment, and they will be in [the] pool for sure.”
Could that have an innocent explanation? Sure, maybe. But inviting a group of adult men to a gathering and calling young children “further entertainment” while listing their ages is weird, whether it ends up having an explanation or not.
Here are just a few of the more “institutional” coincidences involved in the story: one of the men on the small list of people found “liking” photos like this one on these individuals’ Instagram accounts is Arun Rao, the U.S. Attorney Chief, charged with prosecuting cases of child pornography.
Besta Pizza, the business whose logo so closely resembled the “little boy lover” logo, is owned by Andrew Kline, who was one of four attorneys in the Human Trafficking Prosecution Unit of the Department of Justice. Isn’t it just a little unusual that someone that high up in a human trafficking division would fail to notice the symbolism?
For yet another coincidence, Lauren Silsby-Gayleris the former director of The New Life Children’s Refuge in Haiti. It is a matter of public record that she was caught, prosecuted, and sent to jail while in that role for trying to abduct dozens of children, most of whom had homes and families. The main lawyer paid to represent Silsby-Gayler, “President of the Sephardic Jewish community in the Dominican Republic,” was himself suspected of involvement in human trafficking.
When the Clintons gained influence in the region, one of their first acts was to work to get Silsby-Gayler off the hook. Among the Podesta, Wikileaks are State Department emails discussing their case. Meanwhile, she now works on the executive board of AlertSense . . . which collaborates with IPAWS to send out nationwide Amber Alerts.
There is a 1994 documentary expose on NAMBLA (the North American Man/Boy Love Association) called Chicken Hawk. Here is yet another reference from a watchdog group from 2006, proving that this one existed well before Pizzagate surfaced. Another confirmed fact dug up by the paranoid right-wing conspiracy nuts on the Internet?
So here are a few more things we do know. We know that Bill Clinton has taken dozens of international flights on a plane colloquially known as the “Lolita Express” with Jeffrey Epstein, a man who spent 13 months in jail after being convicted of soliciting a 13-year-old prostitute. We know that Hillary Clinton’s staff knew that Anthony Weiner was sexting underage girls all the way back in 2011 — and covered it up. Guess whose laptop revealed evidence that Hillary Clinton went on flights on Jeffrey Epstein’s “Lolita Express” along with Bill? That’s right: Anthony Weiner’s.
Now do you understand why the mainstream media was so eager to spin these emails as just a “distraction” during the election?
The staff that ignored Weiner’s sexting of young children included John Podesta himself, whose brother Tony is one of the very men at the center of Pizzagate. Tony Podesta has rather warped tastes in art. For instance, he owns a bronze statue of a decapitated man in a contorted position identical to a well-known photograph of one of serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer’s victims.
The same news story also mentions the fact that John Podesta’s bedroom contains multiple images from a photographer “known for documentary-style pictures of naked teenagers in their parents’ suburban homes.”
In addition to Jeffrey Epstein, the Podesta brothers are also friends with convicted sex offender Clement Freud as well as convicted serial child molester Dennis Hastert.
We do know that the New York Times, which is now dismissing Pizzagate in its entirety as a hoax, is run by Mark Thompson — who was credibly accused a few years back of lying to help cover up a scandal involving another high-profile public figure involved in child sex abuse, Jimmy Savile, during his time as head of the BBC.
And we do know that this has happened before.
Lawrence King, the leader of the Black Republican Caucus, who sang the national anthem at the Republican convention in 1984, was accused by multiple claimed victims of trafficking and abusing boys out of the Boys Town charity for years. You can hear the chilling testimony from three people who claim to have been victimized by King in a documentary produced shortly after the events transpired.
You can hear the FBI, even after they received extensive testimony from victims, explain in their own words that they weren’t going to prosecute King because if anything were wrong with him, he would have been prosecuted by a lower authority already. Eventually, King was found “O. J. guilty” of abusing Paul Bonacci — convicted in civil court, acquitted in criminal court.
The best-written source for information about the depths of corruption and cover-up involved in this scandal is Nick Bryant’s The Franklin Scandal: A Story of Powerbrokers, Child Abuse & Betrayal ( you can find a free copy on your own,) or contact their website, and it will tell you where to find it.
Could all of this turn out to be nothing? Of course, it could. But that’s not the question here. The question is how we should respond to the possibility.
Do we take the possibility seriously? History clearly indicates that we should. Even if it did turn out to be nothing at all, I would still be more proud to belong to a community willing to take the possibility seriously and call for investigation than I wouldn’t want to belong to a community that dismissed the possibility far too hastily and luckily turned out to be right — even as it did this and turned out to be wrong in so many cases like Rotherham before.
The real horror here would be to live in a society that responded as Reddit has — by shutting down the whole conversation entirely, banning r/pizzagate even while keeping subreddits like r/pedofriends, “a place for (non-offending) pedophiles and allies to make friends with each other!” alive.
But which is worse? If all the evidence coming out of Pizzagate is entirely false, what have we lost by spending time on it? On the other hand, if even five percent of the allegations that have been made surrounding the topic are true, what have we lost by ignoring them? Which is worse: spending too much time pursuing and thoroughly vetting false leads, or looking the other way while any amount of child abuse goes on?
According to the FBI’s National Crime Information Center (NCIC) database, nearly 470,000 children disappear in the United States alone each year. This number is dubious for a number of reasons. It looks like some number of runaways end up in the NCIC count, and to make matters worse, repeat offenders can make it into the data multiple times. So that would suggest that the real number must be lower than this tally; but on the other hand, we also know that many missing children are never reported in the first place, so it’s possible that that could boost the number back up. The bottom line, however, seems to be that there is no reliable way to determine how many total children are actually missing in the U.S.
Either way, though, even if correcting for these errors took out 90% of the disappearances in the NCIC database, and there were no unreported disappearances to account for at all, I think even the resulting 50,000 per year would still be enough to call the problem systematic and justify suspicion that these disappearances could well involve organized efforts—given that we already know of so many pedophile rings in so many powerful institutions.
In 2013, Canada busted a ring involving more than 300 adults, who had teachers, doctors, and nurses heavily represented among them. A pedophile ring has just been identified in the highest levels of UK football (Americans know the sport as soccer). Norwegian police also just uncovered a ring of 50 organized pedophiles mostly working in the tech sector, once again including elected officials, teachers, and lawyers. The Vatican scandals can practically go without mention — institutional involvement in child sex exploitation is nearly an a priority given.
And the children that are being raped and murdered in the photos passed around by these child porn rings are coming from somewhere. And when figures like politicians, teachers, and lawyers are involved in the rings, it’s hardly inconceivable that they could be involved in disappearances.
Have we identified one here?
Only time will tell. But we deserve to be paid attention. We deserve to have the matter taken seriously. And we deserve a media bringing the most relevant facts to our attention after having actually done some due diligence on the matter, which we do not currently have. The mainstream media has lied to us long enough about things like Trump having only a 1% chance of winning the election that the public has
increasingly woken up to this fact — which is why Pizzagate is getting so much more attention than the Franklin scandal did. If Pizzagate turns out to have even a single-digit fraction of truth behind it, it may not just bring down the Clinton machine and Democratic Party, it may sound the death knell for the mainstream media as well.
The American FBI agent Ted Gunderson who investigated abuse claimed there was an elite pedophile ring operating in the United States.
Child pornography is interestingly enough popular in the US intelligence community.
That’s just the tip of the iceberg; there are unquestionably numerous examples proving that the authorities in various countries have been known to cover up for pedophiles and child murderers. Obviously, the people in involved in this activity are capable of anything.
There is too much here that has at least circumstantial evidence that in cases of other people would warrant an investigation. The main fear here is that there is a push for no investigation to take place because of the power of those implicated. Which in turn is frightening, because should there be no worries an investigation will uncover something, and will, in fact, exonerate someone, why not just do it to quell people’s concerns? Overall, this would be the best and most responsible course of action. So to me, there is at least some fear there is something to find, hence the push to deny, deny, deny. I am appalled at how quickly the label “fake news” has been applied and with how broad a brush has been used. Ignoring potentially real news is just as irresponsible as promoting inaccurate news.
My feeling is that even if you take away the junk, disinformation, and items for which there easily could be an innocent explanation, Pizza gate has generated many legitimately suspicious findings. Nevertheless, it will be difficult to impossible to prove the allegations because if the allegations are true these pedophiles are protected at high levels of power.